One of the best theological discussions I've had...
Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:19(For context, my friend Wyatt (
neo_ninja) is Christian, and a good man of faith. Always fun to talk theology with him.)
During our chat over God, creation, homosexuality, and ancient cultures, this gem happened:
Wyatt: there's also the fact that biblical literalism wasn't really an issue until the 1860's and that Evolution scared the shit out of secular humanists more than Christians at first, one can argue
Me: I want to ask someone this in an attempt to break their brain: "If God created the heavens and the earth, and also created mankind and all of that, then could it also be true that God created homosexuality? If He didn't want us to partake in it, why'd He give us that option?"
Wyatt: This constant pandering to Christians in the name of 'tradition' and order and the way things always have been is complete and utter bullshit and the people spewing it know it. I'm disgusted with how people are willingly using such tools to keep people in their pockets and if there is a hell or some unfortunate section of the afterlife, those are the people that are going there
Me: Let's face it, mankind enjoys the various interesting ways of sex. No amount of ancient literature is going to change it.
Wyatt: A lot of ancient literature confirms it, actually
Me: I'm not surprised. Homosexuality is certainly not new. It was embraced in some ancient cultures.
Wyatt: also, in response to your question: a classic response (with a good amount of poetry to it) is that God did not create homosexuality or sin, but merely allowed it--in order to be a true creator, one must make something completely opposite of itself, something which does not share part
Wyatt: In an analogy, God did not force us into anything, just opened a lot of doors and said 'have fun', or 'choose'
Me: So, the Earth is essentially God's sandbox-style video game.
Wyatt: ...pretty much, yes. My love of Civilization is just a sincere form of mimicry. When I play video games I'm just being a good Christian. *sagenod*
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During our chat over God, creation, homosexuality, and ancient cultures, this gem happened:
Wyatt: there's also the fact that biblical literalism wasn't really an issue until the 1860's and that Evolution scared the shit out of secular humanists more than Christians at first, one can argue
Me: I want to ask someone this in an attempt to break their brain: "If God created the heavens and the earth, and also created mankind and all of that, then could it also be true that God created homosexuality? If He didn't want us to partake in it, why'd He give us that option?"
Wyatt: This constant pandering to Christians in the name of 'tradition' and order and the way things always have been is complete and utter bullshit and the people spewing it know it. I'm disgusted with how people are willingly using such tools to keep people in their pockets and if there is a hell or some unfortunate section of the afterlife, those are the people that are going there
Me: Let's face it, mankind enjoys the various interesting ways of sex. No amount of ancient literature is going to change it.
Wyatt: A lot of ancient literature confirms it, actually
Me: I'm not surprised. Homosexuality is certainly not new. It was embraced in some ancient cultures.
Wyatt: also, in response to your question: a classic response (with a good amount of poetry to it) is that God did not create homosexuality or sin, but merely allowed it--in order to be a true creator, one must make something completely opposite of itself, something which does not share part
Wyatt: In an analogy, God did not force us into anything, just opened a lot of doors and said 'have fun', or 'choose'
Me: So, the Earth is essentially God's sandbox-style video game.
Wyatt: ...pretty much, yes. My love of Civilization is just a sincere form of mimicry. When I play video games I'm just being a good Christian. *sagenod*